[f_minor] DVDs/BBC magazine

Sun Aug 14 20:16:40 EDT 2011

Hi everyone,

Thanks for all the news about the 10-set DVD release. I requested info from CBC but
haven't heard back from the higher-ups yet, the lower-downs don't know anything
about it. I expect the rights issues are, as noted, complicated. Trust the f_minors to
get to the bottom of it all!!!

Did anyone else read the article on GG from BBC Music magazine (August 2011)? 
It's always fun to find new stuff to add to the archives. I did note several errors, amongst them 
one pic has GG rehearsing in Paris; and the GG included on the Voyager 
spacecraft is identified as the first Goldbergs (I believe it was something from the Well-tempered Clavier).

 Cheers, Elaine

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   1. Re: The GG 10 dvd release (J?rgen Lundmark)
   2. Re: The GG 10 dvd release (Matthew Harding)
   3. Re: The GG 10 dvd release (J?rgen Lundmark)
   4. Re: The GG 10 dvd release (maryellen jensen)
   5. Re: Bjork (maryellen jensen)
   6. Re: Bjork ( GG App ? (p z)

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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 18:14:36 +0200
From: J?rgen Lundmark <jorgen.lundmark at sundsvall.nu>
To: "Discussion of the Canadian pianist Glenn Gould."
    <f_minor at glenngould.org>
Subject: Re: [f_minor] The GG 10 dvd release
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Hello all,

The Japanese HMV-site has published more detailed information on the 10 
DVDs:
http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/product/detail/4178637

I used Google Translate, and the result is included in the attached PDF. 
I haven't tried to correct the text which contains some rather inspired 
suggestions. Still, I don't think it's hard to understand what is 
intended, despite such surprising names as Oscar competent ski  and 
Golfo di Mir back Shuman  ;-)

Regards,
Jorgen

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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 12:17:10 -0400
From: Matthew Harding <matthew.harding at ktlgroup.ca>
To: "Discussion of the Canadian pianist Glenn Gould."
    <f_minor at glenngould.org>
Subject: Re: [f_minor] The GG 10 dvd release
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Nice job, Jorgen... some inspired translations :).

It's good to hear that we are getting some _real_ Gould finally... between this and the Naxos set, we are finally getting what we have all been dreaming of!

Hope things are going well for you in Sweden... take care,
Matthew

--
Matthew Harding, PMP
President and CEO

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On 2011-08-11, at 12:14 PM, J?rgen Lundmark wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> The Japanese HMV-site has published more detailed information on the 10 DVDs:
> http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/product/detail/4178637
> 
> I used Google Translate, and the result is included in the attached PDF. I haven't tried to correct the text which contains some rather inspired suggestions. Still, I don't think it's hard to understand what is intended, despite such surprising names as Oscar competent ski  and Golfo di Mir back Shuman  ;-)
> 
> Regards,
> Jorgen 
> 
> <Gould_DVD.pdf>

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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 19:02:28 +0200
From: J?rgen Lundmark <jorgen.lundmark at sundsvall.nu>
To: "Discussion of the Canadian pianist Glenn Gould."
    <f_minor at glenngould.org>
Subject: Re: [f_minor] The GG 10 dvd release
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Hello Mary,

Kevin Bazzana answers you CBC question like this:

"As I understand it, CBS/Sony has always held
the rights to release GG's recordings (from whatever source) beginning with
his first Goldberg recording--which is why the CBC, in the early 1990s,
could only release earlier, pre-1955 radio/TV recordings on its own label,
recordings dating from before the CBS contract. So Sony still holds the
rights to release GG's post-1955 stuff as CDs, DVDs, etc., even CBC
material, though of course this all had to be negotiated with the CBC
(that's one of the reasons this process took so long--everything had to be
renegotiated between Sony and the CBC). All of this is slightly complicated
by the fact that anything before 1961 is now in the public domain in most of
the world, which means that (outside the USA, anyway) I myself could sell
bootleg CDs of 1957 CBC broadcasts on my street corner and it wouldn't be
illegal. (This applies to audio, anyway; the copyright laws in video might
be different, I actually don't know.)"

Regards,
Jorgen

>
> Hejsan Jorgen et al
>
>  How can an imminent Sony dvd release have anything to do with Gould's
> "Bernsteining in all directions" which was done at/for the CBC?
>
>  Jorgen, hasn't the CBC sole copyright to GG's many many years of
> t.v. programs and radio performances?
>
>  Can Mr. Bazzana help out on this?
>
>  It would be interesting to hear from somebody/anybody with
> personal-professional information on "Revcom". I have read up on
> it and it has been an interesting read but I'd like to understand more.
> It seems there were some very interesting people involved.
>
> Mary

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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 21:00:56 +0200
From: maryellen jensen <maryellenjensen28 at hotmail.com>
To: <f_minor at glenngould.org>
Subject: Re: [f_minor] The GG 10 dvd release
Message-ID: <DUB110-W6928C132B593235AF67D87B5220 at phx.gbl>
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Jorgen,

Thanks for the the CBC - CBS/Sony copyright information. A few years ago I spoke with
Faye Perkins (Sony/Glenn Gould Estate) by telephone who told me the same thing that 
Kevin Bazzana told you. Rather complicated eh? 

Fantastic that the entire Humphrey Burton Conversations are finally available. I have beaten my
computer keyboard to within an inch of its electronic capacities trying to track down a copy.
The Beethoven portion has been widely screened from London to NYC to San Francisco: 
it has turned up at many a Beethoven fete over the years.    

Pity about the "How Mozart Became..." missing from the new compilation. If I'm not
mistaken the copyright is also at Boston early PBS...was the exclusion due to copyright
or down to something else? 

One last thing: The Glenn Gould Foundation has no posts whatsoever on the new live
collection nor on the new dvd collection. No posts, no critical analysis, no nothing.

Yours,
Mary    

Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 19:02:28 +0200
From: jorgen.lundmark at sundsvall.nu
To: f_minor at glenngould.org
Subject: Re: [f_minor] The GG 10 dvd release

    Hello Mary,

    Kevin Bazzana answers you CBC question like this:

    "As I understand it, CBS/Sony has always held

    the rights to release GG's recordings (from whatever source)
    beginning with

    his first Goldberg recording--which is why the CBC, in the early
    1990s,

    could only release earlier, pre-1955 radio/TV recordings on its own
    label,

    recordings dating from before the CBS contract. So Sony still holds
    the

    rights to release GG's post-1955 stuff as CDs, DVDs, etc., even CBC

    material, though of course this all had to be negotiated with the
    CBC

    (that's one of the reasons this process took so long--everything had
    to be

    renegotiated between Sony and the CBC). All of this is slightly
    complicated

    by the fact that anything before 1961 is now in the public domain in
    most of

    the world, which means that (outside the USA, anyway) I myself could
    sell

    bootleg CDs of 1957 CBC broadcasts on my street corner and it
    wouldn't be

    illegal. (This applies to audio, anyway; the copyright laws in video
    might

    be different, I actually don't know.)"

    Regards,

    Jorgen

        Hejsan Jorgen et al

         How can an
          imminent Sony dvd release have anything to do with Gould's 

        "Bernsteining in
          all directions" which was done at/for the CBC?

         Jorgen, hasn't
          the CBC sole copyright to GG's many many years of

        t.v. programs and
          radio performances?

         Can Mr. Bazzana
          help out on this? 

         It would be
          interesting to hear from somebody/anybody with 

        personal-professional
          information on "Revcom". I have read up on

        it and it has
          been an interesting read but I'd like to understand more.

        It seems there
          were some very interesting people involved.

          Mary    

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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 21:42:50 +0200
From: maryellen jensen <maryellenjensen28 at hotmail.com>
To: <f_minor at glenngould.org>
Subject: Re: [f_minor] Bjork
Message-ID: <DUB110-W285AE2CB25AC0D64F1868EB5220 at phx.gbl>
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDbPYoaAiyc

The only Bjork I ever liked but merde I'm a just sucker for hedgehogs
and Ophelia. Who isn't?. My Iceland is Sigur Ros, practically everything they
ever recorded.. 

It would be a very very cold afternoon in hell when Glen Herbert Gold let anyone on this
transitory plane fiddle and/or otherwise mix with his 'perfect' recordings. If you read and
listen to what he really said on the subject of "mixing" you will realize that he never spoke of
his own recordings the way he offered up  those of other artists for the 'mix'. 

Gould 'tampered' with his recordings so that you the listener wouldn't have to. 
He was the decider, not you - oh except for your treble and bass dials...

Mary

From: Kpapademas at aol.com
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 15:43:43 -0400
To: f_minor at glenngould.org
Subject: [f_minor] Bjork

Came across this article which mentions Glenn Gould's vision of mixing 
music to suit the performer/listener/composer.

So, music assembled ala Gouldian principles and mixed with science and 
Bjork!

http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/story/2011/08/05/f-bjork-app-album.html

Katherine, listening to GG playing Jacques Hetu's Variations.

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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 22:42:42 +0200
From: p z <pzumst at bluewin.ch>
To: "Discussion of the Canadian pianist Glenn Gould."
    <f_minor at glenngould.org>
Subject: Re: [f_minor] Bjork ( GG App ?
Message-ID: <81A350FA-407F-4B7B-A405-09F48CEF06D5 at bluewin.ch>
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Dear all

According to Dante the lowest pits or malebolge in Inferno (Hell) are made of ice, and it is very dang cold down there...jus' sayin. And since the Eagles got together again it must be very bleeding cold down there indeed...

Now back in ye ole days when Interactive CD-Rom was the buzzword and dinosaurs roamed the earth someone had produced one of these featuring GG. I never got my hands on one of these but one of the features was being able to "remix" as it were the Opening Trio of IoN.  Not that I want to contradict Mary (mainly because she is sharper than me) but it has been done before. And that feature still sounds intriguing after all these years.

Bj?rk is using a new technique to market her latest album: an iPone/iPad app. That little app will allow you to explore and discover her strange universe and while I have no intention whatsoever to buy that record the idea sounds interesting and reminds me of what Peter Gabriel had in mind with eVe back around the time of said GG CD-Rom.

The idea of a GG app sounds interesting, at least to me. Interactive features like being able to remix that Opeing Trio, exclusive news and pictures, a youtube channel and whatnot. Pop artists like Bj?rk and NIN have used apps to a great effect and I reckon the launch of such an app would cause some interest in the classical community in general, the GG crowd in particular. 

Of course such an idea will cause comment from the more conservative minds, but it would be a sign that that whoever is in charge of GG's Legacy has arrived in the present. These people will correctly point out that the current app frenzy will pass on one day, but once you have reached someone with a tool like this his or her love for GG 's recordings will stay.

Probably not the best idea I had today, but rather a bad idea than no clue at all.

Pat
Am 11.08.2011 um 21:42 schrieb maryellen jensen:

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDbPYoaAiyc
> 
> The only Bjork I ever liked but merde I'm a just sucker forhedgehogs
> and Ophelia. Who isn't?. My Iceland is Sigur Ros, practically everything they
> ever recorded.. 
> 
> It would be a very very cold afternoon in hell when Glen Herbert Gold let anyone on this
> transitory plane fiddle and/or otherwise mix with his 'perfect' recordings. If you read and
> listen to what he really said on the subject of "mixing" you will realize that he never spoke of
> his own recordings the way he offered up  those of other artists for the 'mix'. 
> 
> Gould 'tampered' with his recordings so that you the listener wouldn't have to. 
> He was the decider, not you - oh except for your treble and bass dials...
> 
> Mary
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Kpapademas at aol.com
> Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 15:43:43 -0400
> To: f_minor at glenngould.org
> Subject: [f_minor] Bjork
> 
> Came across this article which mentions Glenn Gould's vision of mixing music to suit the performer/listener/composer.
>  
> So, music assembled ala Gouldian principles and mixed with science and Bjork!
>  
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/story/2011/08/05/f-bjork-app-album.html
>  
>  
> Katherine, listening to GG playing Jacques Hetu's Variations.
>  
>  
> 
> 
> 

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