[f_minor] more on R.Tureck and GG

Tue Aug 10 09:17:25 EDT 2010

Hi Anne and Elaine
While everyone reads or re-reads Katie Hafner's book - a link to a recent  
interview with Verne Edquist - 
_http://www.thestarphoenix.com/entertainment/movie-guide/Piano+tuner+unseen+
artist/3379292/story.html_ 
(http://www.thestarphoenix.com/entertainment/movie-guide/Piano+tuner+unseen+artist/3379292/story.html) 

K

In a message dated 8/9/2010 10:46:03 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
afrench6 at cox.net writes:

Great  post,  Elaine.  Now I want to read this book.  And I do NOT  play 
the piano (at least not in public)... but the mechanics, tuning, all that  
have always fascinated me. Also, I'll have to go back and read prior posts in  
this thread, because the Tureck thing sounds fascinating too.  So thank  you 
again.  

Anne

On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Elaine Parks <_elaine19c at yahoo.ca_ 
(mailto:elaine19c at yahoo.ca) > wrote:

I'm not sure how familiar everyone is with Katie  Hafner's terrific book "A 
Romance on Three Legs: GG's Obsessive Quest  for the Perfect Piano". It's a 
must-read for those of you who actually  play the piano professionally and 
a really interesting book for the  rest of us. Anyway she describes Tureck 
literally experiencing a  revelation about Bach's music which led to her 
knowing she "had to  create an entirely new technique for playing the piano as a 
result";  and also that she certainly did some trailblazing in playing the  
Goldbergs at Juilliard. Hafner does say Tureck was "put out by Gould's  
achievement" and her Bach became "yesterday's news" when his Goldbergs  album 
made him a star.  

I think it's somewhere in a radio interview Tureck very  graciously says 
something to the effect that she's flattered by  Gould's praise of her Bach; 
in another book (sorry I don't remember  which at the moment) it's recalled 
she said more bitterly "he played  them the way I did" or close to those 
words. One has to feel for  her.

To return to Katie Hafner's book, she writes about GG's  superhuman speed 
and that "Gould's playing resembled Tureck's, but his  tone was more 
seductive, and his approach, especially in terms of  rhythm, was more dynamic...with 
one recording GG proved that he could  play the piano like nobody else in 
the world".

Personally I find her version very beautiful and other-worldly  (is that a 
word?!) But I find his mesmerizing. Maybe it can rightly be  said that 
without her example, his GVs wouldn't have been the way they  were.

That book gets a lot into the mechanics of how pianos were/are  made and 
what different famous pianists liked in the action/tone/keys  etc. of their 
pianos; and how a tuner spends literally dozens of years  perfecting his or 
her craft. Amazing stuff.

Cheers, Elaine

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Thank you, Elaine, for  your marvelous info.  It's so nice to have a 
corroborating  guidance.
For me (as my subjective opinion) Tureck's influence on  Gould goes without 
saying, 
and perhaps this is why the both  players go hand in hand on my list, 
without belittling others, as  the best female and male Bach player.

Have a good  weekend.
SDC

From: Elaine Parks 
Date:  Thursday, August 05, 2010 2:17 PM
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Subject: Re: [f_minor]  Tureck and Gould

Indeed GG credits  Tureck with having greatly ifluenced his playing of 
Bach. You can  find one of these instances in Jonathan Cott's interviews  
("Conversations with Glenn Gould"): "I did like Tureck's recordings  enormously - 
Tureck influenced me...she was the first person who  played Bach in what 
seemed to me a sensible way...playing of such  uprightness". 

Cheers,  Elaine

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1. If  Rosalyn Tureck... (maryellen jensen)

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Believe  me, I'm not going to be banging on about this forever but if while 
 you're listening to this you are not also in mind of Gould's 1981-82  
recording then pardon me but you haven't listened to Gould's second  Goldberg. 
Microsoft hotmail has does  something bizarre by offering a little video 
box at the beginning of  each email which I did not ask for. Forget that box 
and go to the  hyperlink instead.

_http:///www.youtube.com/watch?v=HExHrFt2pPM&feature=related_ 
(http:///www.youtube.com/watch?v=HExHrFt2pPM&feature=related) 

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